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I am lost as to where I can find a
Jane Rose b 1857 death

I keep coming up against a brickwall on this one.
She is on 1891 in Dudley...although I am not sure if she has just been slotted in there
not on 1901 with husband wm rose

has a child in 1887
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... onnections

Do the electoral registers of that time have the womans name on there?

and anyone any ideas where I should look for her
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I wish you good luck on this ! I remember this from years ago.I've just had a look but all i get is a headache !
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Rob wrote:I wish you good luck on this ! I remember this from years ago.I've just had a look but all i get is a headache !


thanks Rob
I keep picking it up and putting it back down :?
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Just thought I'd post this even though it doesn't seem very likely....

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Jane Rose
Death Date: 19 Dec 1910
Death Place: Staffordshire, Stafford, England
Probate Date: 27 Mar 1911
Probate Registry: London, England

Jane Rose of 26 High Street, Old Hill, Staffordshire (wife of William Rose) died 19th Dec 1910. Administration to the said William Rose storekeeper.
Effects £1175 13s. 6d.
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mallosa wrote:Just thought I'd post this even though it doesn't seem very likely....

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Jane Rose
Death Date: 19 Dec 1910
Death Place: Staffordshire, Stafford, England
Probate Date: 27 Mar 1911
Probate Registry: London, England

Jane Rose of 26 High Street, Old Hill, Staffordshire (wife of William Rose) died 19th Dec 1910. Administration to the said William Rose storekeeper.
Effects £1175 13s. 6d.


I think this is Jane Tilley born 1876
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Marriage details.
6/7/1873 St. John, The Pleck Walsall Staffordshire
William Rose 21 bach. Chain Maker Pleck father Samuel Rose Chain Maker
Jane Severns 19 sp. Pleck father George Severns Striker
Witnesses :- Josiah & Lucy Holmes
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kdwoodie wrote:
mallosa wrote:Just thought I'd post this even though it doesn't seem very likely....

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Jane Rose
Death Date: 19 Dec 1910
Death Place: Staffordshire, Stafford, England
Probate Date: 27 Mar 1911
Probate Registry: London, England

Jane Rose of 26 High Street, Old Hill, Staffordshire (wife of William Rose) died 19th Dec 1910. Administration to the said William Rose storekeeper.
Effects £1175 13s. 6d.


I think this is Jane Tilley born 1876


Yes it is
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mumbles wrote:Marriage details.
6/7/1873 St. John, The Pleck Walsall Staffordshire
William Rose 21 bach. Chain Maker Pleck father Samuel Rose Chain Maker
Jane Severns 19 sp. Pleck father George Severns Striker
Witnesses :- Josiah & Lucy Holmes


Thanks mumbles :wink:

I think she leaves Wm Rose maybe after last child 1887
But what is odd is that on 1891 Jane is down as born soho warks on census
had she gone there to live and husband just gave that info cos Jane had gone to live with a rellie in soho warks

1891 - 41 St. Giles St., Netherton, Dudley
William Rose Head 39 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Cradley Heath
Jane Rose Wife 33 b. Warwickshire, Soho
Arthur Rose 16 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Walsall
Ernest Rose 13 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Walsall
William Rose 11 b. Durham, Sunderland
Samuel Rose 9 b. Durham, Sunderland
George H Rose 7 b. Durham, Sunderland
Rosannah Rose 5 b. Staffs., Cradley
Lilly E Rose 2 b. Staffs., Cradley
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I think Soho was an area of Handsworth.
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Soho is just past Smethwick by Winson Green Birmingham Warwickshire. Maybe William Rose who was a violent character had mistreated Jane Severns to such an extent that she went into hiding from him and he,William Rose , had entered her name on the Census 1891 for monetary reasons or even worse.
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mallosa wrote:Just thought I'd post this even though it doesn't seem very likely....

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Jane Rose
Death Date: 19 Dec 1910
Death Place: Staffordshire, Stafford, England
Probate Date: 27 Mar 1911
Probate Registry: London, England

Jane Rose of 26 High Street, Old Hill, Staffordshire (wife of William Rose) died 19th Dec 1910. Administration to the said William Rose storekeeper.
Effects £1175 13s. 6d.


ROSE, JANE age 34 .
GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 11.
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Rob wrote:Soho is just past Smethwick by Winson Green Birmingham Warwickshire. Maybe William Rose who was a violent character had mistreated Jane Severns to such an extent that she went into hiding from him and he,William Rose , had entered her name on the Census 1891 for monetary reasons or even worse.


I think she left him but can't find where she went or if she died.
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Did we ever get a look-up for Lily Rose's school records on FMP?

Lily Rose born 1887, record 1895 Dudley

and

Rosehannah Rose , record 1893 Dudley

and

Geo H Rose , record 1893 Dudley

I don't suppose they hold much information?
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Thanks

Does anyone have fmp and can look up those 3 names pls
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Lily Rose, birth 11 Aug 1887 - Admitted 7 Jan 1895
St Thomas's Infants School, King Street, Dudley, Worcs
Parent: William - Residence: 27 Fountain Street - Last School: Knowle School - Date of Withdrawal: 28 June 1895

Rosannah Rose, Birth: Left (no date) - Admitted 11 Apr 1893
St Thomas's School, King Street, Dudley, Worcs
Parent: William - Residence: 13 Red Hill - Last School: Tetnall Street - Date of Withdrawal: 9 Oct 1893

Geo H Rose, Birth: 21 Aug 1883 - Admitted 30 Oct 1893
Hart's Hill School (Later Holly Hall CS School)
Parent: Wm - Residence: 26 Nine St., H.H. (Holly Hall?) - Last School: Rom. Cath. Bd.
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