Yes, an interesting read and sad for Mahlah as she must have found it difficult to fit in.kdwoodie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:02 am This is interesting
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Jeston (Jesse) Homer
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I can't find a link for grandparents of Jesse and HannahWaltzer7 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:51 pmYes, an interesting read and sad for Mahlah as she must have found it difficult to fit in.kdwoodie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:02 am This is interesting
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Re grandparents of Jesse Homer, do you mean parents of Jeston Homer? They were Joseph Holmer (Bpt: 13 April 1721 at St Mary's, K'ford) who married Mary Cartwright on 30 December 1741 at St Mary's, Kingswinford.kdwoodie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:36 pmI can't find a link for grandparents of Jesse and HannahWaltzer7 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:51 pmYes, an interesting read and sad for Mahlah as she must have found it difficult to fit in.kdwoodie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:02 am This is interesting
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Ambrose Homer Baptised: 27 April 1746 - Buried: 4 May 1746 at St Mary's, Kingswinford
Jeston Homer Baptised: 9 Apr 1749 at St Mary's, Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England. Jesson, son of Joseph & Mary Holmer, baptised. Page: 107 of St Mary's, Kingswinford Parish Registers.
John Homer Baptised: 15 April 1753 at St Mary's, Kingswinford. Page 125 and buried on 8th May 1754.
Looks like I got interupted at this point or there weren't anymore children... Will need to double check this...
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This is what I can't understand or connect
We have traced Mahlah, also known sometimes as Amelia, back through her parents Jesse and Hannah who married in Halesowen on 30 June 1820; to Jesse's parents Jason and Nancy, and Hannah's parents Barnabas and Hannah; to William and Hannah Homer (the grandparents of both Jesse and Hannah, for they were cousins), who married in Kingswinford, a neighbouring parish to Cradley, in about 1755; and to William's parents Richard and Elizabeth, also of Kingswinford.
We have traced Mahlah, also known sometimes as Amelia, back through her parents Jesse and Hannah who married in Halesowen on 30 June 1820; to Jesse's parents Jason and Nancy, and Hannah's parents Barnabas and Hannah; to William and Hannah Homer (the grandparents of both Jesse and Hannah, for they were cousins), who married in Kingswinford, a neighbouring parish to Cradley, in about 1755; and to William's parents Richard and Elizabeth, also of Kingswinford.
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This has appeared in my hints: -kdwoodie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:38 pm This is what I can't understand or connect
We have traced Mahlah, also known sometimes as Amelia, back through her parents Jesse and Hannah who married in Halesowen on 30 June 1820; to Jesse's parents Jason and Nancy, and Hannah's parents Barnabas and Hannah; to William and Hannah Homer (the grandparents of both Jesse and Hannah, for they were cousins), who married in Kingswinford, a neighbouring parish to Cradley, in about 1755; and to William's parents Richard and Elizabeth, also of Kingswinford.
Name Barnabas Homer
Gender Male
Baptism Date 21 May 1766
Baptism Place Halesowen,Worcester,England
Father William Homer
Mother Hannah
FHL Film Number 886632, 886633, 886634
I will have a look on Kingswinford and Oldswinford parish records, see if I can find more children…
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Am I reading this right, it's saying Jesse and Hannah's grandparents are William and Hannah but Jesse's father Jeston has father Joseph and Barnabas has father William so it can't be right
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Please would it be possible for you to explain why it can't be right? I can see that Jesse and Hannah were cousins.
I can only find one baptism for Jeston, which was 9th April 1749 at St Mary's, Kingswinford to parents: Joseph (1721-1789) and Mary Holmer, nee Cartwright (1723-?) so far.
Having had a look at other Trees, some have put down Jeston as being born on 23 Feb 1745 but when I clicked on their baptism, it came up as Jesse instead of Jeston: -
Jeston (Jesse) Homer 1745–1804
BIRTH 23 FEB 1745 • Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
DEATH 1804 • Brierley Hill, Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Birth: 23 Feb 1745 • Kingswinford,Stafford,England
Their actual baptism shows this: -
Name Jesse Homer
Gender Male
Baptism Date 23 Feb 1745
Baptism Place Kingswinford,Stafford,England
Father James Homer
Mother Esther
FHL Film Number 417203
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If Jetson and Barnabas were brothers they would have the same father.
Jestons father is Joseph Barnabas father is William
Jestons father is Joseph Barnabas father is William
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Do you have evidence that Jeston and Barnabas were brothers?
I'm going to go back to looking up other potential baptisms when I get back from shopping.
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That's the problem I can't find anything to connect them.
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Have added Phoebe who married James Willetts here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =315870223
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Thanks.kdwoodie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:34 pm Have added Phoebe who married James Willetts here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =315870223
Adding Mary Homer:-
Mary Homer
Baptised: 9 Apr 1775 at St Mary'S Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Parents: Jeston & Nancy Homer
Name Mary Homer
Gender Female
Baptism Date 9 Apr 1775
Baptism Place Old Swinford,Worcester,England
Father Geston Homer
Mother Nancy
FHL Film Number 527939
Married Joseph Jones (1775-1843): -
Name Mary Homer
Gender Female
Marriage Date 30 Mar 1794
Marriage Place St Mary’s, Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Spouse Joseph Jones
FHL Film Number 291595
Reference ID item 1
*Joseph Jones was a witness at Margaret Jones' wedding to Joseph Homer
Census 1841: Carless Green, Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England:-
Name Mary Jones
Age 65
Estimated Birth Year abt 1776
Gender Female
Where born Worcestershire, England
Civil parish Old Swinford
Hundred Halfshire (Lower Division)
County/Island Worcestershire
Country England
Street address:Occupation
Registration district Stourbridge
Sub-registration district Stourbridge
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Piece 1198
Book 6
Folio 26
Page number 18
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Name Age
Joseph Jones 65
Mary Jones 65
Henry Jones 35
Francis Jones 20
Clara Jones 9
Census: 1851. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England: -
Mary Jones, Mother-in-law. Widow. Age 75. Parish Relief from Oldswinford, Worcestershire.
Name Mary Jones
Age 75
Estimated Birth Year abt 1776
Relation Mother-in-law
Gender Female
Where born Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish Kingswinford
Ecclesiastical parish Brierley Hill
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Stourbridge
Sub-registration district Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel 15
Neighbors View others on page
Household schedule number 74
Piece 2036
Folio 447
Page number 20
Household members
Name Age
Thomas Stevens 31
Mary Stevens 31
Ambrose Stevens 12
David Stevens 9
James Stevens 3
Thomas Stevens 1
Mary Jones 75
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I have been looking up parish records for Kingswinford, Oldswinford, Cradley, Dudley. Will check Halesowen Parish registers tomorrow. I have come across children baptised at Kingswinford and Dudley to Joseph & Mary Holmer/Homer: -
Joseph Holmer Abt: 1721, Kingswinford - Buried 26 April 1789 at Brierley Hill.
Married Mary Cartwright on 30 December 1741 at St Mary's, Kingswinford
Children: -
Joshua bpt: 25 April 1742 at St Thomas, Dudley
Ambrose bpt: 27 April 1746 at St Mary's, Kingswinford - buried: 4 May 1746 at St Mary's, Kingswinford.
Jeston bpt: 9 April 1749 at St Mary's, Kingswinford
Ambrose bpt: 27 Jan 1750/51 at St Thomas, Dudley
John bpt: 15 April 1753 at St Mary's, Kingswinford
Sarah bpt: 6 July 1755 at St Thomas, Dudley
James bpt: 7 May 1758 at St Thomas, Dudley
Ruth bpt: 25 May 1760 at St Thomas, Dudley
Possible burial for Jeston (Jesse) Homer?: -
Name Jesse Homer
Gender Male
Death Age 57
Birth Date 1747
Death Date abt 1804
Burial Date 31 Jan 1804
Burial Place Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
FHL Film Number 1470582
Reference ID it2
Joseph Holmer Abt: 1721, Kingswinford - Buried 26 April 1789 at Brierley Hill.
Married Mary Cartwright on 30 December 1741 at St Mary's, Kingswinford
Children: -
Joshua bpt: 25 April 1742 at St Thomas, Dudley
Ambrose bpt: 27 April 1746 at St Mary's, Kingswinford - buried: 4 May 1746 at St Mary's, Kingswinford.
Jeston bpt: 9 April 1749 at St Mary's, Kingswinford
Ambrose bpt: 27 Jan 1750/51 at St Thomas, Dudley
John bpt: 15 April 1753 at St Mary's, Kingswinford
Sarah bpt: 6 July 1755 at St Thomas, Dudley
James bpt: 7 May 1758 at St Thomas, Dudley
Ruth bpt: 25 May 1760 at St Thomas, Dudley
Possible burial for Jeston (Jesse) Homer?: -
Name Jesse Homer
Gender Male
Death Age 57
Birth Date 1747
Death Date abt 1804
Burial Date 31 Jan 1804
Burial Place Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
FHL Film Number 1470582
Reference ID it2
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Added most of this but I don't think its the correct Mary in 1851Waltzer7 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2024 6:07 pmThanks.kdwoodie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:34 pm Have added Phoebe who married James Willetts here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =315870223
Adding Mary Homer:-
Mary Homer
Baptised: 9 Apr 1775 at St Mary'S Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Parents: Jeston & Nancy Homer
Name Mary Homer
Gender Female
Baptism Date 9 Apr 1775
Baptism Place Old Swinford,Worcester,England
Father Geston Homer
Mother Nancy
FHL Film Number 527939
Married Joseph Jones (1775-1843): -
Name Mary Homer
Gender Female
Marriage Date 30 Mar 1794
Marriage Place St Mary’s, Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Spouse Joseph Jones
FHL Film Number 291595
Reference ID item 1
*Joseph Jones was a witness at Margaret Jones' wedding to Joseph Homer
Census 1841: Carless Green, Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England:-
Name Mary Jones
Age 65
Estimated Birth Year abt 1776
Gender Female
Where born Worcestershire, England
Civil parish Old Swinford
Hundred Halfshire (Lower Division)
County/Island Worcestershire
Country England
Street address:Occupation
Registration district Stourbridge
Sub-registration district Stourbridge
Neighbours View others on page
Piece 1198
Book 6
Folio 26
Page number 18
Household members
Name Age
Joseph Jones 65
Mary Jones 65
Henry Jones 35
Francis Jones 20
Clara Jones 9
Census: 1851. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England: -
Mary Jones, Mother-in-law. Widow. Age 75. Parish Relief from Oldswinford, Worcestershire.
Name Mary Jones
Age 75
Estimated Birth Year abt 1776
Relation Mother-in-law
Gender Female
Where born Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish Kingswinford
Ecclesiastical parish Brierley Hill
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Stourbridge
Sub-registration district Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel 15
Neighbors View others on page
Household schedule number 74
Piece 2036
Folio 447
Page number 20
Household members
Name Age
Thomas Stevens 31
Mary Stevens 31
Ambrose Stevens 12
David Stevens 9
James Stevens 3
Thomas Stevens 1
Mary Jones 75
Thomas Stevens is on Bcc here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =701470825
Marys father is Edward not Joseph