*ARC TBC* --Helping a friend....Philadelphia Mighall

[MarkCDodd]

This lady married a John Dignum. We do not know where....

They had several children including,

Robert in Bethnal Green in Middlesex in December 1844

Ann in Whitechapel in Middlesex/London in 1848

The only Census you will find her on is 1871 which gives a clue she was born somewhere is Sussex (Apolean?) abt 1826.

Her death certificate give no further clues except it puts her birth abt 1824. She died at Mile End in Middlesex the first quarter 1881.

This friend has been looking for the origins of Philidelphia since 2005 and needs to know her pedigree and where they got married.

[peterd]

who this a name sake ?

1881 Ashcombe Cottage Lewes St Ann, Sussex

George MIGHALL 46 Westhoathly, Sussex, Ag Lab
Philadelphia MIGHALL 43 Wivelsfield, Sussex,
Mary Ann MIGHALL 22 Wivelsfield, Sussex, Gents Serv Out Of Employ
Bessie MIGHALL 9 Wivelsfield, Sussex, Scholar
Harry MIGHALL 11 Wivelsfield, Sussex, Scholar
Albert MIGHALL 7 Wivelsfield, Sussex, Scholar
Kate MIGHALL 4 Ditchling, Sussex, Scholar
Owen MIGHALL 2 Wivelsfield, Sussex,
Arthur MIGHALL 1 m Lewes, Sussex,
William GLADMAN Boarder 23 Hamsey, Sussex, Ag Lab

[peterd]

dont know if these mean anything ?

PHILADELPHIA MIGHELL
JOHN COMBER
Marriage: 10 APR 1852 West Hoathly, Sussex,

[peterd]

submitted ?



Philadelphia Mighall
Birth: 27 Mar 1776


Father: Richard Mighall
Mother: Sarah

[peterd]

robert

1881 113 Ernest St London, Middlesex

Robert DIGNUM 37 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, Packing Case Maker
Mary Ann DIGNUM 37 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Housewife
Charles DIGNUM 17 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Packing Case Maker
Anna DIGNUM 14 Whitechapel, Middlesex,
Albert DIGNUM 9 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Scholar
Margaret DIGNUM 6 Stepney, Middlesex,
Margaret BOKER Moth In Law W 83 Frankfort (B S), Germany No Occupation

[MarkCDodd]

You will find a few Philadelphia Mighall including one born in 1797 and others born around 1840.

Like any family, the Mighall tend to repeat their fornames over and over.

THis specific Philadelphia Mighall is born between 1824 and 1826 and is proving a pain to track down.

[peterd]

this looks poss, here parents joseph mighall and mary box ?

http://www.theweald.org/N10.asp?NId=5082707

no husband down thought

Philadelphia Mighall
b: 1821 Ardingly, Sussex

[peterd]

You will find a few Philadelphia Mighall including one born in 1797 and others born around 1840.

Like any family, the Mighall tend to repeat their fornames over and over.

THis specific Philadelphia Mighall is born between 1824 and 1826 and is proving a pain to track down.

can you post that 1871 census please

[Maths girl]

can you post that 1871 census please

Is this it?
1871 St Mary Whitechapel
Thomas Carlie 19 Ostler Stepney
Ann Carlie 20 Whitechapel
Phila Delphia Dignam 45 Apstead Sussex Mother-in -law
Charles R Dignam 7 Nephew Whitechapel

Charles is on the next page - is he son of Robert? or another sibling of Ann?

[gardener]

Only possible I see is

1841
Horsted Keynes
Richard Mighall 35 labourer y
Mary ditto 10 y
Philadelphia ditto 8 y
Ann ditto 6 y

Next door are more Mighall

William 30
Sarah 30
Mary 9
Joseph 8
George 7
jane 4
Nimrod 2
Mildred 1

Think I find Richard in 1861/71 but as a boarder.

Anyhow, this Philadelphia is too young to be the right one so just ignore me!

[MarkCDodd]

I had looked at The Weald and not seen that 1821 Philadelphia Mighall.

I think that may me the one but we still need to find a marriage to confirm it.

And yes, I did mean to say the 1871 census was in Whitechapel.

[Maths girl]

This lady married a John Dignum. We do not know where....

They had several children including,

Robert in Bethnal Green in Middlesex in December 1844

Ann in Whitechapel in Middlesex/London in 1848

Just trying to widen the net more:

You say they had several children including Robert and Ann.
As they are not on the 1871 census how do you know and what details do you have on them eg dob and where.
Have you found them on earlier census in case Philadelphia and Robert were living nearby?
If the birth date of 1821 is correct it is just possible that they were married before 1837 and hence the reason they are not appearing on marriage index's

[MarkCDodd]

Robert was born 24th December 1844 at No7 Collingwood Street Bethnall Green, Middlesex and his entry in the BMD is 1st quarter 1846 volume 2 page 25.

John Dignum is listed as a Bookseller on the birth certificate.

Ann Dignum was born 4th Quarter 1848 in Whitechapel. Her entry in the BMD is 4th quarter 1848 volume 2 page 6.

There is supposed the be a Charles born about 1845 but I can find no suitable record.

Philadelphia's death is recorded 1s quarter 1881, volume 1c page 415. She died at Miles End.

Thats is what I can easily find as I do not have these people in a tree in front of me.

[peterd]

this is all submitted but ties in with mile end area where philadelphia died


Charles Robert Dignum
Birth: 7 Mar 1887 Mile End, Middlesex

Parents
Father: Charles Robert Dignum
Mother: Alice Frances Causton

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Charles Robert Dignum
Birth: 1864
Death: 9 Nov 1921 Middlesex

Parents
Father: Robert Dignum
Mother: Mary Ann (Dignum)


Spouse: Alice Frances Causton
Birth: 25 Sep 1863 Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Christening: 16 Oct 1863 St. John, Bethnal Green, Middlesex

Father: William Samuel Causton
Mother: Ann Studdeard


Marriage: 18 May 1884 St Jude Bethnal Green, Middlesex


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Robert Dignum
Birth: abt 1830
Spouse: Mary Ann (Dignum)

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think this is the above family

1881 113 Ernest St London, Middlesex

Robert DIGNUM 37 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, Packing Case Maker
Mary Ann DIGNUM 37 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Housewife
Charles DIGNUM 17 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Packing Case Maker
Anna DIGNUM 14 Whitechapel, Middlesex,
Albert DIGNUM 9 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Scholar
Margaret DIGNUM 6 Stepney, Middlesex,
Margaret BOKER Moth In Law W 83 Frankfort (B S), Germany No Occupation

[peterd]

i think this might be one of philadelphia sons note last child poss name after her born mile end ?


1881 12 Salisbury St London, Middlesex

Richard DIGNUM 38 Brighton, Sussex, Carman
Charlte.Elizth. DIGNUM 37 Shoreditch, Middlesex, Employed In Packing Case Factory
Thomas John DIGNUM 14 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Scholar
Charlotte Elizth. DIGNUM 11 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, Scholar
William Hy. DIGNUM 9 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, Scholar
George Albert DIGNUM 3 Mile End Old Town, Middlesex,
Philladelpha DIGNUM Dau 1 Mile End Old Town, Middlesex,
Thomas REECEM Grandfather W 56 Mile End Old Town, Middlesex, Furniture Trimming (Weaver 17.5)
John STANSELL Lodger 28 Mile End Old Town, Middlesex, Deal Porter


could richard above actually be charles richard or richard charles ?


extracted


CHARLES FREDERICK DIGNUM
Christening: 06 SEP 1874 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

Father: CHARLES DIGNUM
Mother: CHARLOTTE ELIZABETH


not with them on census though ?