ARC TBC - Hello from a Rollason-Bishop newbie--

[grangers14]

Hello from a Rollason-Bishop newbie

by maryperiman » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:59 am

Hello all
My name is Mary and I am trying to find my English roots.

I am interested in the Rollason family from the Smethwick area, including Bilston. West Bromwich and area.
My great grandfather was Joseph William Rollason, son of Isaac and Anne Hitchings,(born June 9, 1854_, and his wife, Hannah Dickinson, daughter of David Dickinson and Elizabeth Stone.
Hannah was born Jan 16, 1854. Hannah died of breast cancer on January 23, 1897, and Joseph drank himself to death (cause is stated as chronic meningitis) Oct. 22, 1899.

(note by NL post split here and running with separate thread on Bishops)

I really want to get back further, and I know that there are a lot of Rollasons and they ALL seem to have the same name, so if anyone could help me, I would be truly grateful.
My link to the family is my grandparents, Joseph William(b. 1888) and Maude Adelaide Bishop (b. 1888).

Thank you so much.
Mary Rollason Periman

[mallosa]

Hi Mary and welcome!

I think these are yours on BCC?
Joseph snr & wife Hannah - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... son-Family

Joseph jnr - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... son-Family

Marriages Dec 1911
Bishop Maud A King's N. 6c 874
Burrows Edgar Kings Norton 6c 874
Harris Lilian M King's N. 6c 874
Rollason Joseph W King's N. 6c 874

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[Northern Lass]

Hi Mary lets see what we can add to Bcc on this lot
Will split the other Bishop lot off to its own thread to save this one getting too confusing.

[Northern Lass]

We have on Bcc Josephs mother as Ann Hunt not Hitchens
Hitchens looks like his first wife

do you have the Hitchens marriage? the full info?
Marriage 1840
ROWLESON Isaac HITCHINS Ann Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) 39/1/471

and do you have the Birth certif for your Joseph pls


23 March 1845 St Johns Halesowen
Isaac Rollason- full age- widower- miner- Rowley- Joseph Rollason- Cokeman
Ann Hunt- full age- spinster- Rowley- Isiah Hunt- Bricklayer
Wit- X James Foxall/ X Elizabeth Foxall

If the birth certif for Joseph William says Hitchens then something aint rite with what we have on Bcc.

This Issac maybe another one
as miner on marriage not nailer as on census

23 March 1845 St Johns Halesowen
Isaac Rollason- full age- widower- miner- Rowley- Joseph Rollason- Cokeman
Ann Hunt- full age- spinster- Rowley- Isiah Hunt- Bricklayer
Wit- X James Foxall/ X Elizabeth Foxall

[Northern Lass]

Thanks to RF for marriage
26 Mar 1840 St Martin Tipton
Isaac ROWLESON O W Nailer West Bromwich Father Thomas Rowleson Nailer
Ann Hitchins O S Nailer West Bromwich Father William Hitchins Miner
After Bans The X Of Both
Wit; Christine Collins X / Thomas Shorthouse Junior

I am amending on Bcc will run with that other Isaac on another thread

Mary if you could post the info on the birth certif pls for your Joseph born 1854 that would be a big help

[Northern Lass]

Ok we have a bapt pls for Isaac with father thomas

and how does this lot connect if at all
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =905358246

1841 Census
Lyndon House,West Bromwich
Joseph Rollason, 45, nailor
Sarah, 50, nailor
Joseph, 20, nailor
All born county

1841 Census Lyndon House(?) West Bromwich
Isaac Rowleson, 25, Nailor
Ann, 20,
/Mary, 4 months
Febus(?) Hitchans, 16
All born County

same address in 1841?

[Northern Lass]

Thanks to Mary for the Birth info for Joseph that confirms mother as Ann HItchings.

I couldnt see a bapt for Issac Rollason with father Thomas can anyone else?

[Northern Lass]

can someone find marriage for this couple pls
1841 Census
Lyndon House,West Bromwich
Joseph Rollason, 45, nailor
Sarah, 50, nailor
Joseph, 20, nailor
All born county


and them on the 1851 pls
and a Poss bapt for Joseph pls

[dudleytaylor]

Cannot find Joseph and Sarah Rollason on 1851
Possable son for 1861

Walsall Street West Bromwich.

Joseph Rollason Head 40 Carter West Bromwich
Rebecca Spouse 40 West Bromwich
John Son 18 Carter West Bromwich
Eliza Daughter 12 Scholar West Bromwich
Enock Son 6 West Bromwich
Sarah Daughter 1 West Bromwich

[maryperiman]

I am afraid that the Isaac and Joseph listed above are not on my line. My Joseph (b. 1854) died in 1899 of chronic meningitis, (according to his son, my grandfather, he drank himself to death after his wife, Hannah, died of breast cancer in 1897.) I have the death certificates, if anyone would like them. I had read somewhere in the discussions, that one of the BC members had found records of a 9 year old Joseph being picked up by the Birmingham police and ultimately being placed in the boys school. Does anyone have those records, please? That might have been grandpa. He did finally end up living with his sister Elizabeth, in Smethwick.
Thanks everyone.

[Northern Lass]

I am afraid that the Isaac and Joseph listed above are not on my line. My Joseph (b. 1854) died in 1899 of chronic meningitis, (according to his son, my grandfather, he drank himself to death after his wife, Hannah, died of breast cancer in 1897.) I have the death certificates, if anyone would like them. I had read somewhere in the discussions, that one of the BC members had found records of a 9 year old Joseph being picked up by the Birmingham police and ultimately being placed in the boys school. Does anyone have those records, please? That might have been grandpa. He did finally end up living with his sister Elizabeth, in Smethwick.
Thanks everyone.

Hi Mary this is your Isaac

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =131690983

marries Ann HItchins in 1840
with her on census note Hitchens on 1841 and 1851
and as proved by birth Certif of Joseph William in 1854 mother Ann Hitchens.

What is odd is that Joseph Rollason at same address in 1841
I just wondered if they were related.

[dudleytaylor]

Bit confused now Jan ,who are we looking for? Dt

[Northern Lass]

Bit confused now Jan ,who are we looking for? Dt

It is confusing cos 2 Isaacs I think we have it correct on Bcc based on info /evidence.

So the one that links to Mary is this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =545386483

Q who does this Isaac marry first?

Q where is his bapt

Q how does he link to Joseph Rollason on few pages before him on 1841 if at all.

[dudleytaylor]

Found Baptism for Ann Rollason( Daughter).
All Saints West Bromwich Staffs
Name: Ann Rollason
Gender: Female
Date:26 September 1847
Father: Isaac Rollason
Mother:Ann

Index Project co 1024-3
ENGLAND -ODM
Source No 497347,497348,497349,497350,497351.

[dudleytaylor]

Benjamin Rollason (son) All Saints Church West Bromwich.
Male
Baptism: 26 September 1847
Birth: 17 Jan 1847
Father: Isaac Rollason
Mother: Ann.
CO 1024-3
England -ODM
497347,497348, 497349,497350,497351.

Mary Rollason (Daughter) All Saints Church West Bromwich.
Female
Baptism:26 September 1847
Birth Date:28 Jan 1841
Father : Isaac Rollason.
Mother :Ann
CO 1024-3
England-ODM
497347,497348,497349,397350,497351,
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